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		<title>Comment on Gorean and BDSM by slavey</title>
		<link>http://goreanrefuge.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/gorean-and-bdsm/#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>slavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh forgot one thing, 

what you do is dominate
who you are is dominant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh forgot one thing, </p>
<p>what you do is dominate<br />
who you are is dominant.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gorean and BDSM by slavey</title>
		<link>http://goreanrefuge.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/gorean-and-bdsm/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>slavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many people who pracitse BDSM but are not part of &#039;the scene&#039;, that generally means they are going to public events, such as play parties, clubs or munches.  A couple can be D/s-M/s all their life and not once mix with another BDSM person.  So yes, you can be Gorean and not part of the bdsm SCENE.

I do agree that Gor is a subset of BDSM though.  The first Gor novel came out after &quot;The Story of O&quot;.  The default slave position in Gor - nadu, is exactly the same as the slave position in &#039;O&#039;.  Since &#039;O&#039; was the forerunner to the modern BDSM scene, and John Norman used positions and ideas AFTER the &#039;O&#039; book came out, then its roots in BDSM cannot be denied.

Even some in the BDSM scene do not use safe words.  However, this usually only happens between long term, committed couples who know each other well.  I have always felt sex has little to do with the scene.  Yes it can be arousing and many may use sex during a part of a scene or part of their particular take on BDSM, but it&#039;s not automatically a part of it.  There are some submissives who go into service of others their whole life and do not have sex with the person they serve.  Some are in the scene because of a particular fetish only, which never involves sex.  

Personally, I think the only thing that is automatically a part of BDSM is whether you are a Dominant or a submissive.  Without that, to me you are not in the BDSM scene, but in the kink/fetish scene.

More than likely, the reason Goreans don&#039;t like being part of the BDSM scene is because it&#039;s too liberal for them.  They have a very strict take on what you can and can&#039;t do and will not accept a Mistress or male sub/slave at all.  Switching, cross dressing and many other things would be anathema to them as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many people who pracitse BDSM but are not part of &#8216;the scene&#8217;, that generally means they are going to public events, such as play parties, clubs or munches.  A couple can be D/s-M/s all their life and not once mix with another BDSM person.  So yes, you can be Gorean and not part of the bdsm SCENE.</p>
<p>I do agree that Gor is a subset of BDSM though.  The first Gor novel came out after &#8220;The Story of O&#8221;.  The default slave position in Gor &#8211; nadu, is exactly the same as the slave position in &#8216;O&#8217;.  Since &#8216;O&#8217; was the forerunner to the modern BDSM scene, and John Norman used positions and ideas AFTER the &#8216;O&#8217; book came out, then its roots in BDSM cannot be denied.</p>
<p>Even some in the BDSM scene do not use safe words.  However, this usually only happens between long term, committed couples who know each other well.  I have always felt sex has little to do with the scene.  Yes it can be arousing and many may use sex during a part of a scene or part of their particular take on BDSM, but it&#8217;s not automatically a part of it.  There are some submissives who go into service of others their whole life and do not have sex with the person they serve.  Some are in the scene because of a particular fetish only, which never involves sex.  </p>
<p>Personally, I think the only thing that is automatically a part of BDSM is whether you are a Dominant or a submissive.  Without that, to me you are not in the BDSM scene, but in the kink/fetish scene.</p>
<p>More than likely, the reason Goreans don&#8217;t like being part of the BDSM scene is because it&#8217;s too liberal for them.  They have a very strict take on what you can and can&#8217;t do and will not accept a Mistress or male sub/slave at all.  Switching, cross dressing and many other things would be anathema to them as well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on BDSM Play: Humiliation by OpposomyArors</title>
		<link>http://goreanrefuge.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/bdsm-play-humiliation/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>OpposomyArors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am Looking for a reliable webshop for &lt;a href=&quot;http://seks-artikelen.jouwpagina.nl/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;seks artikelen&lt;/a&gt; in the amsterdam area.

Thanks!

Hendrik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Looking for a reliable webshop for <a href="http://seks-artikelen.jouwpagina.nl/" rel="nofollow">seks artikelen</a> in the amsterdam area.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Hendrik</p>
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		<title>Comment on Public Humiliation by Ano-nymous</title>
		<link>http://goreanrefuge.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/public-humiliation/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>Ano-nymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Force your slave to wear these in public all day, 
take the bus, shopping, restaurant...
Maybe he&#039;s forced to wear catheter and diaper underneath...
http://www.myimagespace.com/public/slideshow/1438</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Force your slave to wear these in public all day,<br />
take the bus, shopping, restaurant&#8230;<br />
Maybe he&#8217;s forced to wear catheter and diaper underneath&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.myimagespace.com/public/slideshow/1438" rel="nofollow">http://www.myimagespace.com/public/slideshow/1438</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on BDSM Play: Humiliation by unscrupulouspagans</title>
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		<dc:creator>unscrupulouspagans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think BDSM should be included in a religious lifestyle?

http://unscrupulouspagans.wordpress.com/</description>
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<p><a href="http://unscrupulouspagans.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://unscrupulouspagans.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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